Talking TV With Ryan and Ryan

Our second podcast of the day finds Ryan McGee and Myles McNutt talking about the series finale of "Weeds", and its overall place in the pantheon of 21st century television.

Make sure you also check out today's first installment, with Mo Ryan and Emily Nussbaum talking about "teen girls and transgressive males" as the two characters around which most recent great television has been based.

Be sure to subscribe to the new feed for the podcast here if you like to listen on iTunes. You'll see plenty of ways in each post to stream or download MP3s if you hate iTunes with the same passion that most critics had for "Weeds" over its last few seasons.

Music: "Where I End And You Begin," Radiohead

Direct download: weedsfinale.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 7:58pm EDT
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Hello all, this is Mo. Ryan and I are creating a lot of Fall TV podcasts for you in the next couple of weeks. But now for something completely different. 

On Thursday, Sept. 20, New Yorker TV critic Emily Nussbaum tweeted the theory that much of the most interesting drama of the last decade or so had been about middle-aged men and teen girls; many of the most interesting shows, she noted, had featured "two contrasting forms of adolescence." My instant reaction: Relevant to my interests. I invited Emily on the podcast to talk about that theory and much more. 

On Twitter, we also got into a discussion with several other critics and Twitterers about shows like "Felicity" and the idea that calling a show "just a soap opera" is, for some people, a condescending insult. That drives me a little bit nuts because every scripted drama is full of contrivances and most engage in some kind of melodrama. In our podcast discussion, we talked about what kinds of contrivances and melodramatic moves are considered "good" or worthy, and what kind are considered "bad" or unimportant. We also talked about when the mixing genres and formulas starts to weird people out, and which shows get relegated to the margins while others get to be more central to the discussion of the Golden Age of Television. 

Some of the shows that came up were "Buffy," "The Sopranos," "Boardwalk Empire," "Battlestar Galactica," "Gilmore Girls," "Breaking Bad," "Once and Again" and of course "Spartacus." But there were dozens that we mentioned in this free-ranging discussion of cultural hierarchies, criticism, characters' power struggles and why "Friday Night Lights" successfully crossed so many boundaries. 

Oh, and we also talked about shows that make us cry and how much we think about whether to bring that up in reviews. Enjoy! 

UPDATE: The podcast cuts off after I make a comment about my husband introducing me to "Buffy," around the 49-minute mark. I should have noted the somewhat abrupt ending in my introductory remarks -- I meant to do that but forgot. Sorry about that! In any event, at that point we ran out of time and had to end the podcast. A few of you have asked me if you missed anything after that point, but don't worry, you didn't. Again. sorry for the abrupt ending. I'm still working on my podcast production skills. 

Be sure to subscribe to the new feed for the podcast here if you like to listen on iTunes. You'll see plenty of ways in each post to stream or download MP3s if you hate iTunes with the same passion that Mo and Emily hate unfair dismissals of shows that explore emotional intimacy.

Direct download: emily_nussbaum.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 12:19pm EDT
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Mo Ryan and Ryan McGee are back, with a jam-packed Friday installment of the podcast.

Today's breakdown:

Boardwalk Empire: 0:00 - 8:14

Alphas: 8:14 - 19:05

The Mob Doctor: 19:05 - 27:14

Revolution 27:14 - 46:16

Louie 46:16 - End

Be sure to subscribe to the new feed for the podcast here if you like to listen on iTunes. You'll see plenty of ways in each post to stream or download MP3s if you hate iTunes with the same passion that Mo and Ryan hate mediocre genre fare.

Music: "Revolution," The Beatles

Direct download: thealphamobrevolution.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 3:27pm EDT
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Mo Ryan and Ryan McGee are back, with review of two premieres and one returning show.

Today's breakdown:

Guys With Kids: 0:00 - 7:38

The New Normal: 7:38 - 20:12

Sons of Anarchy: 20:12 - End

Be sure to subscribe to the new feed for the podcast here if you like to listen on iTunes. You'll see plenty of ways in each post to stream or download MP3s if you hate iTunes with the same passion that Ryan Murphy hate consistent tonality.

Music: "Wild Boys", Duran Duran

Direct download: sonsofguyswithnewkids.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 4:05pm EDT
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Mo Ryan and Ryan McGee are looking for ways to add variety to this podcast feed, and are proud to introduce a new series that includes segments from past episode that are still relevant/amusing/enlightening today.

The move to the new hosting system has provided a lot of advantages, but unfortunately little access to the 2+ years of archives from the old feed. While those podcasts still exist, they are not readily accessible at the current time. They may well be available again for download in the future, but in the meantime, we hope this is an interim solution.

To kick off this series, we go back to September 2010, for the final twenty minutes of our podcast with Shawn Ryan ("The Shield," "Terriers", and the upcoming ABC drama "Last Resort".) This segment was actually his idea, as he wanted to use the opportunity of coming on the podcast to discuss some problems that showrunners have within this day and age of television production. It's a fantastic segment, and a highlight in the "Talking TV" history.

Enjoy!

Direct download: fromthevault1_2.mp3
Category:From The Vault -- posted at: 12:49pm EDT
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It's a podcast frenzy! Mo Ryan and Ryan McGee have already done a "Doctor Who" Watching TV podcast and a TARDIS-"Breaking Bad" Talking TV podcast this week, but we've got one more recording for you. 

On Sept. 1, Mo and Peter Sagal of NPR's "Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me" sat down with George R.R. Martin to discuss all things "Game of Thrones." Martin is the author of "A Song of Ice and Fire," the novel series on which the HBO drama is based, and the panel discussion took place at Chicon, the 70th World Science Fiction Convention. The trio talked about the TV show, the book series and took audience questions for about 70 minutes. 

There are no time stamps on this particular podcast, but if you would like more details about what was discussed, you can see this summary on Mo's Huffington Post TV site

Be sure to subscribe to the new feed for the podcast here if you like to listen on iTunes. You'll see plenty of ways in each post to stream or download MP3s if you hate iTunes with the same passion with which Martin hates predictable stories.

Enjoy!

Direct download: GRRM_Panel.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 2:04pm EDT
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Mo Ryan and Ryan McGee are back, with half-hour discussions of the "Doctor Who" premiere and the "Breaking Bad" finale.

Today's breakdown:

Doctor Who: 0:00 - 29:03

Breaking Bad: 29:03 - End

Be sure to subscribe to the new feed for the podcast here if you like to listen on iTunes. You'll see plenty of ways in each post to stream or download MP3s if you hate iTunes with the same passion that The Doctor hates Daleks.

Music: "Bad Medicine," Bon Jovi

Direct download: doctorbad.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 3:32pm EDT
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This podcast is about to go all timey-wimey on you, as Mo and Ryan look at one of the all-time classic episodes of an all-time classic series.

Be sure to subscribe to the new feed for the podcast here if you like to listen on iTunes. You'll see plenty of ways in each post to stream or download MP3s if you hate iTunes with the same passion that Sally Sparrow hates losing friends to the Weeping Angels.

Enjoy!

Direct download: blink2.mp3
Category:Watching TV -- posted at: 3:26pm EDT
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Mo and Ryan are back...because, well, they had to go back. To The Island, that is. Yup, the pair are exploring the show that started their podcast team-up, this time looking at Season 5's incredible episode "LaFleur." What made them choose this particular episode from the show's entire run? You'll have to listen to find out.

Be sure to subscribe to the new feed for the podcast here if you like to listen on iTunes. You'll see plenty of ways in each post to stream or download MP3s if you hate iTunes with the same passion that drunk Horace Goodspeed hates trees.

At the outset, we mention the great charity Cancer Gets Lost. To see how you can help, and all the great items available via their auction, visit their website. It's a wonderful cause run by some wonderful people.

Enjoy this week's podcast!

Music: "Digging In The Dirt," Peter Gabriel

Direct download: lafleur.mp3
Category:Watching TV -- posted at: 10:58pm EDT
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Mo and Ryan are back to talk about one of the best episodes of one of the greatest television comedies (hell, greatest television shows) ever. Not only do they discuss the episode specifically, but also talk about the upcoming 4th season on Netflix and the show's place in the continuum of TV as a whole.

Be sure to subscribe to the new feed for the podcast here if you like to listen on iTunes. You'll see plenty of ways in each post to stream or download MP3s if you hate iTunes with the same passion that the Bluths hate the Cornballer.

Since Ryan mentions "chicken dancing" quite a bit in the podcast, here's a link of what he means. And be sure to check out past episodes of the "Watching TV" series as well!

Enjoy!

Music: "So Sad About Us," The Who

Direct download: goodgrief.mp3
Category:Watching TV -- posted at: 11:32pm EDT
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